Are Dentist’s Real Doctor’s?

If thats the case then what would you call Aircraft Pilots => Air Taxi Drivers

How about guys who fly without any AMMO ? what are they considered.

“A dentist is not a doctor of medicine (MD), or a doctor of osteopathy (DO), but instead follows a different path toward becoming medically proficient in caring for teeth and gums.”

http://www.wisegeek.com/is-a-dentist-a-doctor.htm

so your telling me that 2 years is not alot… ok if i bring somebody from ma3had al tatbeeki and someone with a bachelors degree.. in your eyes there is no difference between them. hmmmm

BAAAMMM

The guy with the bachelors degree might be better at partying cause he had two more years experience.

BAM!

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Nice article. I agree that some people think of dentists as animals. I just never knew why. Thanks for posting.

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No dentist is not the real doctor, he is areal dentist… hahahaha….. he only can cure our tooth problems not the others.

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Attention: Really a Real doctor,

I have posted this somewhere but i feel you are the best man to read it.

It doesn’t shock anyone again to find comments as those posted regarding the doctor status of the dentist, and the kind of article they address. Rather most of them exposed ignorance of a profession that is getting more and more popular by the second and a contempt for what has been universally accepted to be good-the Dentist and his profession!

But has it not often been said that..”the success of the dentist has nothing to do with the frustration and opinions of the medics”? Those who say that dentists aren’t exactly what they qualified to be called are those that would deny the very existence of themselves. Talkers of mischief, they are widely called.

Dentistry is unique in being a medical specialty course thought at undergraduate level. I went to a school which runs both medical and dental schools under the same umbrella College of medicine. And i tell you that dental students are seen as students of medical school with a special interest at the dental end of the college.

Those of us who went to such schools whether medical or dental are those who have gone the full circle as we learn the striking resemblance of both professions by experience, and not by hearsay.

In Nigeria, medical and dental trainings take six years plus a one-year internship and one year of community service before you are fully licensed to practise either medicine or dentistry, or both in case of dentists. While on training, the only differences between the dental and medical curricula are those courses dental students take extra.

During those extra hours of learning, the students of medicine were off in their beds in the hostels or socialising.

This discussion will benefit immensely from the following highlights of courses thought to these categories of student doctors, and serves to enlighten the unenlightened or remind those pretending about this issues or those deliberately being obtuse:

Pre-Clinical School: 1. MBBS- Gen. anatomy

BDS- Gen anatomy + dental anatomy + oral embryology and oral histology.

2. MBBS- Gen human physiology

BDS-Gen. human physiology + oral physiology

3. MBBS-Biochemistry BDS- same as for MBBS

Clinicals: 4. MBBS-pharmacology of all drugs

BDS- pharmacology of all drugs plus special emphasis on local anaesthesia, analgesics and antibiotics.

5. MBBS- Gen pathology including histopath, med microbiology, haematology, chem pathology

BDS-Gen pathology including all those branches AND further from that to Oral pathology/ oral diagnosis, which is a broad specialty of dental practice.

6. MBBS-Medicine; BDS-Medicine plus Oral medicine.

7.MBBS- Gen surgery plus specialty surgery

BDS-Surgery in general and brief overview of specialty surgery during clinical rotation. Plus oral surgery, maxillofacial surgery.

8.MBBS- O&G, paediatrics; BDS-Paediatrics plus paediatric dentistry.

9.MBBS- subspecialty surgery-ENT, anaesthesia, ophthalmology, and psychiatry; BDS-ENT, anaesthesia.

10. MBBS-Public Health Medicine; BDS- Public Health Medicine plus Community dentistry.

11 MBBS- Full stop; BDS- orthodontics; Conservative dentistry, Prosthetics, Science of dental materials, operative techniques, Periodontology and a host of others.

Point is, while the MBBS students of our set only had to look at cases being managed, dental students were trained to diagnose and also manage, including performing simple operative procedures as students under their consultants.

Why would anyone holding a MD degree from the same university as mine open his mouth and say dentists are not doctors or know only about teeth? Of course that is almost impossible since such MBBS doctors trained together with their counterpart BDS doctors know them better.

While the time will never come when the GPs or MDs would begin to talk in a language the dentists don’t understand, i wish to stress that an MD in the gathering of dentists is always like a stranger in moscow- completely alien, lost and stranded.

Dentists are taking their exalted positions in the societies of doctors. Especially here, dentists are often the Chief Medical Directors of full blown teaching hospitals, Provosts of colleges of Medicine, top executives of the national medical association, holders of medical and dental and surgical fellowships locally, regional and internationally to include the royal and international colleges of surgeons.

Even in the hospital setting, you see commonly dental registrar seeing patients of all medical differentials, and also becoming the presidents of resident doctors.

And in real practice, dentists are by far the most successful of all the medical colleagues in terms of income. So you talkers of mischief, stop saying what you don’t know, stop pretending that dentists’ lives are no challenges to you or a constant reminders of the mistakes you must have made in your life choices.

Swallow your pride, or hide your insecurity if you cant deal with it. I understand with you that all these good things about dentists are more than enough to make you feel insecure, that there is a version of you that knows better than you. Please dont worry about your job security, dentists are not looking your way, cos they sure are not interested. Already their jobs pay them, and they have much time to reap the reward of their efforts.

Won’t anyone laugh when an army general says Air-force men are not soldiers or dont have military training or cannot also fight on land? So it is when a medical doctor says dental doctors are not doctors, or dont have medical training or cannot also provide medical services. It is an argument that cannot hold in reverse. It holds fore, but not backwards: as it is the medical doctors that cant manage a dental problem while dentists can manage the medicals.

Instead we love you, and if you care to come when you fight dental problems, we will take you as doctor colleagues and give you the kind courtesy treatments you deserve.

But if you don’t see us as wanting to give you courtesy, please bring us the fat wallet and duly pay us for the service we will provide you, just as it applies to other non doctors.

I will leave this: “dentists’ success and happiness doesn’t depend on your opinion of them, just like unpleasant remarks don’t affect the sweet taste of honey.”

That guy looking at patients’ mouths with interest is not just a doctor, he is something greater-a dentist. You had better respect him.

Attention: Really a Real Doctor

I just laughed when you claimed you know dental school a great deal. Then you must be dentally qualified as any dentist you mingle with. So from mingling with or dating dentists, you know dental school? Damn, by dating astronauts, you must be saying you know Jupital too a great deal. Funny dento-cardio-thoracic surgeon! Somebody is fighting with his heart and soul to be in your place indeed.

If you have been on this site at all, then you are amongst those you described as searching the internet to seek acceptance.

I have put the previous comment to direct your orientation. One thing is being ignorant for a while, another is remaining ignorant till death. At least now, you are better dentally aware than you sometimes were.

One thing i notice is that you are confined, and your practice hasnt really taken you far in life. If you get to the top, you will meet dentists that matter to the general body of health–people who will change for life the way you think.

Do you consider that University senates who award Doctor of medicine are most times those that award Doctor of Dental Surgery? If you feel one is not right, the second too cannot be.

Could you please send my regards to the dentists you date!

who are these people-MDs, and what do they even think they are? a bunch of arrogant, self centred people. i hate it when somebody thinks and talks of him/herself more than what he/she actually is. I am an engineer. I have worked as university administrator, and quite aware that MDs training is actually less demanding and narrower than that of the dentists. If we have to redefine things in the united states, dentists should remain honoured while the MDs relegated for their arrogance even to all professionals.

He who thinks too much of himself is a complete fool. Where does the concept of real or fake doctor come from?

Really a real doctor.

If u are here to make fun, already you are supported in makin fun of urself. U actually look like Mr Bean to me bcos dat’s d mental picture i have of u.

The fact always is: dentists are DENTISTS and doctors at the same time even if MDs neva existed. You sound very outdated to say that dentists care about the professn anyone dat talks like u belong.

If dentists and MDs (i mean, you ‘generalists’) were togeda (a privilege for you), u all would be called out as doctors..but on d spur of d moment the calling calls for special people with special skills eg. Who is a specialist here? Or who amongst u guys here is not a jack of all trades,master of none? Only highly skilled personalities, no one else dan d dentists would boldly step out…while u semi skilled people sit back to despise the dentists as usual.

You are known for that. And it makes u more insecure everyday.

We dentists are of course ruling d world. We’ve taken our most superior place in the health profession, and across others. The society wouldnt have placed us upon u if our training stated otherwise. If we werent a force to recon with, it wont have been dentists u would be here wasting ur time and energy to discredit. It wud’ve been others. Maybe pedicurists, evangelists or even motorcyclists.

Of course u knew that each of us can buy ten of you for xmas feast. But we wont do dat; dont be scared.

Let me ask u dese:
Why did you accept in ur heart dat dental school is a superset for med school or that med school is a subset of dental school, and yet u deny that dental degree offers for dentists more informed learning of human body than what mere medical degree offers a generalist?

Should u rather die as this hypocrite?

As u’ve seen the MD training as ultimate for ur brain capacity, do u think ur brain wont exceed its elastic limit and crack if u were to be in dental school where additnal bulk load would’ve be added? You think ds is an illusion, but why dont many other MDs think so?

Do u knw that ds is d burden of work d average dental students carry, and it is endurable for dem cos they know frm d very start dat medicine is just d foundation for dem?

Lastly, u shot ursef in d leg by reciting my earlier example of d airforce(dentists) vs MDs(army). Because they’re both soldiers or professional warriors, they both have military training, though trained at diffrnt defence academies..eg airforce command schl vs army training schl. The airforce has additnal skill of flying a warplane or fight or launch an offensive at distant bases or altitudes.

In d same vein, DDS and MD both have medical training, though may train at different schools(dental school and med schl. Often times they’re run togeda in most universities). The dentists- DDS-have additnal skills frm extensive focus on head and neck and oral cavity, which masters of none dont have.

Believe me, that is what distinguishes men ( dentists) from the boys (you generalists).

Happy New year in 3days time.

call me a fake doc if you want, what are you doing with your life? well im laughing all the way to the bank. also ask any MD they will tell you that our training is different but we all have to go through hell for our tittle. i had a 4.0 in biochem and a 22 on the DAT and a 32 on the MCAT. life is good guys, p.s. there is much more to it than brushing and flossing…..

@ Really A Real Doctor, it is quite humorous that you suggest that dentists are not ”real doctors” and that society should just accept it and move on. However, the reality is that today cancer, kidney diseases, lung diseases, organ disabilities, and oh yes even heart diseases/ problems can be detected simply by the keen eye of a dentist. It has been clinically proven that diseases similar to the ones I have listed above have early signs that develop in THE MOUTH. “Real Doctors” rely on their x-ray films and CT Scans to come to the same conclusion that a dentist can make just by using their knowledge of how the bacteria of infections in the mouth effect the body simply by looking into someone’s mouth. 90% of disease have oral manifestations. Dentists have been trained to realize what abnormalities of the mouth mean in terms of the patients health and the possible outcomes in other parts of their bodies that develop from it. Were you aware that something as common as a toothache usually occurs due to the infection of gums or teeth and this infection can directly affect the tissue lining of the heart and its valves, causing a bacterial disease called Infective Endocarditis? Or that due to incorrect alignment of teeth, inflmmation begins where your teeth are rubbing against your gums forcing the inflmmation to spread to the back of your throat in an attempt to relieve the pressure but eventually closes up causing you to drown in your own vomit? All this can be avoided because dentist have been trained to prevent it. You call yourselves real doctors because you save lives, dentists are called doctors because they are able to  prevent situations that would force someone to have to risk putting their life in your hands. You had better fully understand EXACTLY what being a dentist really means because before you know it, modern medicine will no longer need you because identifying and preventing oral manifestated diseases can begin and end with the patient’s mouth and sooner or later you might just find yourself out of the job. Oh yeah, and the reason dentists defend themselves online is because the internet is where idiocy tends to begin, and dentists deserve to be seen as much more than just glorified a toothbrush.